2.14.2006

Phil's Favorite Part Of The Show

A couple of hands from yesterday on which I'm seeking reader opinion. I'll discuss the actions I took in a later post. These are all late-tournament situations; my chip counts may not be entirely accurate but they're close enough. Hand #1: 9-handed, 500/1000/200. You are in EP2 with T25000 in chips. You have KsKh and make your standard opening raise of 5000. (The pot is T3300 before any cards are dealt; thus even a raise to T4000 gives the blind better than 2:1 to play. I never vary my opening raise.) All fold to the big blind, a solid player who has been on a small rush and has about 40K in chips; he calls. The flop comes QcJc2h. BB checks. The pot is T12300; you have T20000 left. Your action? Hand #2: 9-handed, 600/1200/200. You are BB with T18000 and are dealt Tc2d; you have not rigorously defended your blind for the last several orbits. A tricky, normally aggressive player with a monster stack (90K) limps from early position. SB completes, you check to see the free flop, which comes 8s9sTd. The SB checks. The pot is T5400. Your action?

7 Comments:

Blogger Chris Hanel said...

Hand #1: There's no way I'm giving a free card here, or odds to hit either draw. Just over 20% of my stack is in the middle. Problem is, any bet that's worth anything commits me to the hand.

I think in the moment, I'd move in. But something tells me this might not be the best move. Please educate me.

2/14/2006 04:57:00 PM  
Blogger StudioGlyphic said...

#1. I would bet whatever I normally bet as a continuation bet after a preflop raise. In my case, 1/2 to 2/3 pot for a rainbow flop, 2/3 to full pot for a coordinated flop. In this case, I'd probably bet 10k-12k and call any raise.

#2. I would check with the intention to check-raise all-in. If he checks behind and a scary card comes out, I'll curse and muck at the first opportunity. If he bets large enough to be committed when I check-raise, I'll curse and muck at the first opportunity. If he bets the pot or less and the SB so much as calls, let alone moves in, I'll curse and muck at the first opportunity. But the smart thing to do here is to give up on this hand. It's too well-coordinated.

2/14/2006 05:22:00 PM  
Blogger SirFWALGMan said...

Hand #1: I am all in here. You can not reasonably think you are beat. If you are then its bad luck. If he has AA then its his bad for letting you see a flop. If he has QQ/JJ/QJ then he got lucky and its time for the next tourney. The pot is too big to do anything but push.

Hand #2: This hand it wayyyyy too tricky. You limped in with a hand and it kinda hit. You have not invested much. I think I check-fold here. I know it sounds wimpy but you could easily be outkicked, up against a straight, some big stack with more chips than brains might have two overs.. there are just too many ways to get beat here and you have enough chips to do something later.. chec with the intention to fold.

2/15/2006 06:45:00 AM  
Blogger pokerpeaker said...

Hand #1 - I'd bet the pot. You don't want him drawing on you. I might push all in, but this way, if that third club or straight card comes down and he immeditely goes all in, I can fold. I also wouldn't mind earning a little money on this, so I hope he calls my pot-sized bet.
If the card is a blank, as it mostly likely will be, I move all in on 4th Street. I watch his face when that 4th card comes down, and if I get a bad feeling when it's a club or a straight card, I check and fold it. This is a passive way to play, I know, but it's successful for me.
I would, however, call any all-in on third street. Sometimes you have to take risks, and I wouldn't put him on J,Q or trips in that case.

#2 - Tough hand. I'm always for betting to gain information, but our chip stack is limited, and I doubt I want to go to war with 10,2. I wait for a better spot and check here.

2/15/2006 10:33:00 AM  
Blogger Beck said...

Hand 1: bet near pot, crying call any reraise. If he smooth calls and a scare card comes on the turn, you'll have to play it by ear.

Hand 2: I'm suspicious of the open-limp, your hand is weak, it's a draw heavy board, and the pot is small. Any reasonable bet by you is likely to be called by a wide range of hands, there's a chance there's a big raise coming from the EP player, and you have no kicker. Top pair is nice, and you hate to just give up on it, but I think I'm check-folding here. Maybe take a stab or look to induce a bluff if it checks around and the turn isn't scary.

2/15/2006 10:57:00 AM  
Blogger alan said...

Hand #1: I jam. Any smaller bet doesn't leave me with enough chips, and I don't want to have to fold with a scary card on the turn. The pot's big enough that I want to pick it up right there.

Plus, the overbet will often get called by top pair, no kicker.

Hand #2: I check-fold unless I make two pair for free. Even then, I'm not thrilled with putting any money in. I'm weak.

2/15/2006 11:57:00 AM  
Blogger Alex Martin said...

Hand #1: Move in on this flop. Doesnt matter how you do it just do. If you get a read that he is going to bet then check-raise. But i much prefer moving in here and not giving him pot odds. Hell, if you bet the pot and a scary card comes on the turn you have just lost over 1/2 your stack. Move in, if he has flopped a set, good luck to him. If he hasnt, let him draw without odds if he thinks his rush will hold. I hate the bet pot on flop, fold on turn if scary card comes along. Thats a weak play in my book.

Hand#2: Check/Fold. That flop is WAAAYYY to coordinated and you are in trouble as he has position

your blog=good read

3/15/2006 06:31:00 AM  

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